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Post by elfonzo on Dec 27, 2004 1:52:12 GMT -5
Where can I find tickets to that game?
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Post by Atl on Dec 27, 2004 16:38:48 GMT -5
I've just read it here, and I've read it on so many other boards. People want Columbus to be either relocated or contracted from the league, and I don't understand why. Check out these attendance stats (/home game): 2003/2004 - 17,340 2002/2003 - 17,745 2001/2002 - 18,135 2000/2001 - 17,457 Over the last 4 years they've averaged better attendance than Calgary, Edmonton, and Vancouver. Pretty impressive #'s for a consistant bottom feeder of the NHL. Are those boards predominately Canadian-member boards? If so, that's the reason. It hurts Canadians that "their" game is being successful in a non-Canadian market. If Canadians had their way, they'd move a majority of the teams to such places as Kamloops and Niagra, just as long as they are north of the U.S. border. |
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Post by Mickey Martini on Dec 27, 2004 17:23:51 GMT -5
Are those boards predominately Canadian-member boards? If so, that's the reason. It hurts Canadians that "their" game is being successful in a non-Canadian market. If Canadians had their way, they'd move a majority of the teams to such places as Kamloops and Niagra, just as long as they are north of the U.S. border. Not true Atl. It hurts us to see city that aren't interested in hockey like Carolina and Anaheim have teams. Some markets in the States don't take to hockey. That's a fact Bettman won't admit, and it's killing our game |
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Post by Atl on Dec 28, 2004 0:43:53 GMT -5
Not true Atl. It hurts us to see city that aren't interested in hockey like Carolina and Anaheim have teams. Some markets in the States don't take to hockey. That's a fact Bettman won't admit, and it's killing our game It's unfair to cast judgement on cities that have had NHL teams for 10 years or less. They simply haven't had the chance to build a generation of hockey fans that places like Toronto and Montreal have. The NHL's "Golden Age" came in the 80's and early to mid 90's, long after each of the markets have had a chance to cement their feet in each locale. Take Anaheim, for example. Los Angeles has had a team for 35 years, and they have a pretty solid showing for games. Their brethren 30 minutes south of them have had only 11 years to build. And with California being the most-populated state, they will get to build their fan base. Carolina, Phoenix, Florida, among others, are fairly new to the game. Give it 10 years, and each and every market will be successful. Everyone is looking for a quick solution for problems, and that's what is wrong with our generation. |
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Post by elfonzo on Dec 28, 2004 2:18:48 GMT -5
Are those boards predominately Canadian-member boards? If so, that's the reason. It hurts Canadians that "their" game is being successful in a non-Canadian market. No. The reason they want Columbus out of the league is because they look no further than their record (weren't they 2nd last in the league?). The team has had little success and some people seem to want them out of the league because of this. And Dino's right, Canadians WANT hockey to flourish in American cities. Too bad you can't visit the Flames board anymore, as there are currently 2 threads with 5 pages, all talking about how to improve the game for American viewers, or how to lure more American support. Canadians want the sport removed from Florida, Carolina, and Nashville simply because nobody there cares, and this has a negative influence on the league IMO. |
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Post by Atl on Dec 28, 2004 4:13:05 GMT -5
No. The reason they want Columbus out of the league is because they look no further than their record (weren't they 2nd last in the league?). The team has had little success and some people seem to want them out of the league because of this. And Dino's right, Canadians WANT hockey to flourish in American cities. Too bad you can't visit the Flames board anymore, as there are currently 2 threads with 5 pages, all talking about how to improve the game for American viewers, or how to lure more American support. Canadians want the sport removed from Florida, Carolina, and Nashville simply because nobody there cares, and this has a negative influence on the league IMO. Now people let me know what happens on the board. I'm pretty sure the thread about greedy Americans stealing Canada's hockey isn't one of your said threads. |
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Post by elfonzo on Dec 29, 2004 15:13:47 GMT -5
Now people let me know what happens on the board. I'm pretty sure the thread about greedy Americans stealing Canada's hockey isn't one of your said threads. That was the title yes, and I'm sure there are some individuals out there who feel that way. But you have to see the responses: The People - "For the love of Stanley, Canadians gotta give up on this "our game" attitude. It doesn't sell." The Fonz - "Hockey games need to be high intensity, physical, and high scoring (not like the NLL, I'm talking where most games are 5-4) to succeed in the southern American markets, and a little marketing couldn't hurt either. IMO, until the scoring picks up, nobody will watch." **toby** - "I've been to many CHL games in Texas and Louisiana where the arenas were packed to the rafters. Sure, a capacity crowd is 7500 in a lot of those rinks, but it's bush league hockey, not the NHL. Why do the games sell out (there is a 1 month waiting list to get tickets to the Colorado Eagles games right now)? Because the fans love a good fight--and one thing that is pretty well guaranteed with the price of admission to a CHL game is that the gloves will drop. Scoring is often high as well--lots of 7-5, 5-3, 6-0 games. Many of my southern friends complain that NHL hockey is boring to watch because there is not enough fighting. And if there's not much fighting, what's the point in watching? They are fans of the fight, not the game because they easily understand the fight even if they do not catch the incident that led to the fight. The answer to increasing popularity of the sport in the US lies at the grassroots level--getting kids to play. Then they have the chance to grow up with an understanding of the game that many of us north of the 49th take for granted. If the kids had a chance to play the game, they would be better able to understand the intricacies--and appreciate the craftsmanship and skill of the game's greats as we do. And parents with kids playing would garner an increased understanding as well. Granted, promoting a sport played on ice in areas where ice does not naturally occur is difficult, but necessary to expand the fan base of the sport." **toby** - "If that was the quality of hockey braodcast I had to watch here, I doubt I would be as avid a fan as I am. It was terrible. The one thing that the CBC does right is the hockey broadcast. If the game that we see here was available for Americans to see, I think there would be much more interest in the game south of the border." |
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Post by Hootch on Feb 17, 2005 21:37:16 GMT -5
People who mention Columbus as a team to go don't know what they're talking about. Those people love hockey. Every game I've seen there has been sold out. They have loud enthusiastic fans and I can't wait to see what their playoff atmosphere is like.
But yeah, change their fucking name. Blue Jackets is almost as gimmicky as Mighty Ducks.
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